SCMP Debate: Should a means test be applied to old age allowance?

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SCMP Debate: Should a means test be applied to old age allowance?

I've just browsed the SCMP's blog and found an interesting debate.
In my opinion, a mean test should not be applied.
Since it is a welfare for the elderly, we should help them and respect them.
If there is really a very rich man, he will not get this allowance. For example, Li Ka Shing
We should not forget the contributes of those elderly for our society in the past.
Elderly should enjoy the results of the well development of Hong Kong.  
We should give the power to make decisions to those elderly.
We should trust them.
May be the elderly just exceed the limits a little bit.


Acknowledge and Reference:

SCMP
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1066705/scmp-debate-should-means-test-be-applied-old-age-allowance

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Nesta Debate competition
chiuandy123 發表於 20-1-2013 16:27

    wt is nesta-0-

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which is held by Scmp
chiuandy123 發表於 20-1-2013 16:30

    oh i c
when i search 'nesta' i cannot find anything lol

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btw I am "invited" by my English teacher to join this competition last time...
chiuandy123 發表於 20-1-2013 16:33

    wa op andy

therefore your english standard should be very good lol

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Not really, it is just due to nobody want to join this competition
btw The requirement has bee ...
chiuandy123 發表於 20-1-2013 16:36

    but why your teacher choose u?
Even if there is nobody want to go, your teacher will decides the best student in class to go

OH 20 , I have much confidence to finish it now

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IMHO, I believe that a means test should be applied to the elderly allowance.

The original purpose  ...
kaiziart 發表於 21-1-2013 14:55

I want to ask a question
If an elderly is already rich enough to support his own life, will he go to take those allowance?
E.G. Li Ka Shing,Tung Chee-hwa
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%B7%E6%B4%A5
reference to wiki.
this is a welfare,plz let me speak some chinese, sry.
"如果呢D係比貧困既老年人,點解要叫生果金唔係救濟金?佢原意係比長者買下生果食下,平時食好小小"
Also, do u agree that the saving of those elderly are prepared for their life and the medical expenditure?
the limit is $281,000
may be some elderly just exceed a little bit like $10000
so do u think that this is a must to apply a mean test?

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Of course those richest ppl won't take that little amount of "welfare".
However, there are atill  ...
kaiziart 發表於 21-1-2013 22:19

We cannot close the ads-,-
Even if there is some elderly are rich enough to support their lives,
but I don't think the resources will be wasted.
It is a respect to the elderly.
I don't think we should check their personal information.
We should trust our citizens.
If he/she needs,then we give them.
As u said that richest ppl won't take that little amount of "welfare".

Another thing i want to point out is that,
why those cannot enjoy the fruitful results of HK?
BTW, my english standard is very poor, i cannot transfer my chinese meaning to english--

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Maybe I should use a better vocabulary: utilize. I admit that it is always good to show respe ...
kaiziart 發表於 21-1-2013 23:13

Doing mean test requires resources too.
if government is trust their citizen, there is no need to apply mean test.
You said that we can determine who are more desperately in need by the mean of means tests.
However, if the elderly is in need ,they can apply Comprehensive Social Security Assistance

Reference:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%9F%E6%9E%9C%E9%87%91
"原本高齡津貼設立的目的，是香港政府每月象徵性發放一些零用錢（「生果金」的俗稱就是指長者可以用這筆錢作購買生果之用，粵語地區稱水果為生果），以答謝長者多年來對香港社會的貢獻，表達「敬老」之意。由於時代的變遷，部分窮困長者現在依靠高齡津貼，以支付日常起居生活開支，變為「養老」之用。"

It means the original meaning of this allowance is just a kind of "bonus" .
So,I think the mean test of old age allowance(生果金)  should not be applied.

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OK I misunderstood what you meant by old age allowance.  -_-
I thought that you had been talking a ...
kaiziart 發表於 22-1-2013 18:05

I think the old age allowance talking in the SCMP Debate is about the "生果金" -_-
Yes we can end this discussion.
Thank you for your participation.
I've learned a lot of things from u

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    actually I haven't read the article hehe
kaiziart 發表於 23-1-2013 14:58

hehe
naughty boy